Subject	Not to be the devil's advocate but two things:
Posted by	SeedyROM on September 11, 2003 at 11:45 PM
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In Reply To	the point was.... it didn't harm performance but in fact posted by T0M on September 11, 2003 at 11:38 PM
Message	1) We don't really know this for a fact because the test wasn't scientific. They didn't test the exact same exhaust with 2.5 and 3.0". Instead they threw in a nice secondary benefit being a proper X-pipe and THAT may have caused the increase (in fact, it probably did). We just don't know. 2) No one said it would lower peak horsepower indefinitely. When almost everyone in the archives mentioned "hurting" performance it was in relation to what you don't care as much about: power delivery. I don't even like to call it "hurting" so much as a 2.5" system on a stock turbo car is the "better" choice. Of course, that is my opinion. Hope this makes sense, I had a long day :) My 300Zs: www.zheaven.com - Have a question about either of my 300ZXs? Answers lie within. Admin: www.350ZForum.com - Your source for the lastest info on the new Nissan 350Z! Writer: www.SportZMagazine.com - Nothing but Z cars from cover to cover! Subscribe today! Moderator: www.TwinTurbo.net - Hands down, the best site for 90-96 Z car info and discussion!
Follow Ups	Food for thought about 2.5" and 3" exhaust pipe sizing - T0M 22:23:48 09/11/03 It is NOT peak power, it is a smooth power band. Cmon people - SeedyROM 22:29:27 09/11/03 Oh and I don't mean to sound like a dick :) - SeedyROM 22:41:57 09/11/03 my traps were fast... 2.5" vs 3" proven wrong.. ;) (n/m) - Scotts94z32 05:04:58 09/12/03 they showed a 12 hp increase in a 300ish hp NA over - T0M 22:53:26 09/11/03 You're missing all the flaws in this test - SeedyROM 23:32:53 09/11/03 first off, my post title was "food for thought" not "etched - T0M 23:58:26 09/11/03 Understood...maybe if you had read my other post - SeedyROM 00:09:36 09/12/03 I didnt call you a dick. nor did I insult you once. (n/m) - T0M 00:13:33 09/12/03 hahah seedy you dick *GRIN* (n/m) - Silvrhand (pittsburgh) 08:04:18 09/12/03 test is more or less flawed. - zads 04:36:11 09/12/03 The 2.5 inch was w/ an H pipe. 3" was w/ X pipe. - Kenny 9 psi 23:21:02 09/11/03 Glad someone read the article. (n/m) - SeedyROM 23:33:34 09/11/03 the point was.... it didn't harm performance but in fact - T0M 23:38:37 09/11/03 Not to be the devil's advocate but two things: - SeedyROM 23:45:01 09/11/03 True not very scientific, but the 1/2" larger than 3" - T0M 00:08:43 09/12/03 Yeah, adding an X-pipe didn't hurt performance either. - SeedyROM 00:14:26 09/12/03 x-pipes are for low-to-midrange torque. - T0M 00:23:30 09/12/03 Intarwebb != real life. (n/m) - Kenny 9 psi 00:15:35 09/12/03 kinda funny - JunomeanGF 00:24:14 09/12/03 No doubt. I'll let someone else play with this. - SeedyROM 00:35:52 09/12/03 I walked my girl out mid-post so the window was open - T0M 00:43:12 09/12/03 Not trying to sound like a dick btw :) - T0M 00:45:25 09/12/03
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